ge deep-sea fuel technology. a 50,000-pound, ingeniously wired machine that optimizes raw data to help safely discover and maximize resources in extreme conditions. our current situation seems rather extreme. why can't we maximize our... ready. ♪ brilliant. let's get out of here. warp speed. ♪ >>> joining me now, bob herbert, senior fellow, and schwartz economic policy analysis, i want to talk about the inequality, social mobility, the conversation i just had with michelle rhee about those issues. >> well, when you look at the education, my personal opinion is the so-called education reform movement is the biggest frauds in my lifetime. one is we have been cutting funds to schools, look at chicago, we have been firing teachers over the past several years. >> particularly in the wake of the great recession. >> not responding when the economy has gotten a little bit better, so the idea we're trying to help these kids at the same time we're cutting service to public schools is crazy, the second thing is you're n